Elvis writes note for Dylan radio show compilation, Nov. '10

Pretty self-explanatory
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Here's Clive James review of the BBC Mosley broadcast that inspired LTZ

http://www.clivejames.com/node/428
The Truly Strong Man
As a climax to the salutary dust-up caused by his book on Unity Mitford, David Pryce-Jones was on Tonight (BBC1), face-to-face with Sir Oswald Mosley. Referee: Melvyn Bragg.

As always, the streamlined head of Sir Oswald looked simultaneously ageless and out of date, like some Art Deco metal sculpture recently discovered in its original wrappings. Nor have his vocal cords lost anything of their tensile strength during the decades of enforced inactivity. Devoid of any capacity for self-criticism, Sir Oswald is never nonplussed when caught out: he simply rattles on with undiminished brio.

So vivacious a revenant was a difficult opponent for Pryce-­Jones, looking about eight years old, to deal with. He didn't do so badly. There were about a hundred times he might have used his erudition to point out that Sir Oswald was talk­ing grotesque malarkey, but that would have entailed finding some legally acceptable method of getting Sir Oswald to shut up. As it was, our brave young author did the next best thing. Apart from providing some useful quotations from Sir Oswald's pre-war speeches, he just sat back and let his inter­locutor's much-touted political savvy reveal itself for what it actually is.

Sir Oswald was bent on establishing that Unity's life was ‘a simple, tragic story of a gel who was what we called stage-­struck in those days' and that Pryce-Jones, in writing a book about such of her little quirks as anti-Semitism and blind adoration of Hitler, had done nothing but stir up trouble. Married to one of the Mitford sisters, Sir Oswald was out­raged on behalf of the family. In addition, he took exception to being described as anti-Semitic himself. Unity might have been anti-Semitic, but that was madness. Hitler might have been anti-Semitic, but that was Nazism. He, Sir Oswald, had never been anti-Semitic. Nor had his movement, the British Union of Fascists — which, to hear Sir Oswald tell it, must have been some kind of philanthropic organisation.

Already slightly exophthalmic even in repose, Pryce­-Jones was bug-eyed at the magnitude of Sir Oswald's gall. To know that the shameless old spell-binder had been ped­dling these whoppers for years is one thing. To have him produce them right there in front of you is another. Purport­ing to counter Pryce-Jones's allegation that he had sent a thank-you note after being congratulated on the impeccability of his sentiments by Julius Streicher, Sir Oswald defined Streicher as 'a man I had absolutely nothing to do with'. The thank-you note had been a stock answer, nothing personal.

Pryce-Jones tried quoting chapter and verse to show that the message in question had been written from Streicher's heart, but there was no way for the viewer to judge. With the details so far in the past, it was Pryce-Jones's word against Mosley's. What Pryce- Jones forgot to mention, for the benefit of those in the audience who don't realise what Sir Oswald's word on these subjects is worth, was the fact that Julius Streicher was a murderous, raving anti-Semite whose pornographic fantasies were already official Nazi policy by the time Sir Oswald sent his note. Any kind of thank-you to Streicher was a clearly recognisable anti-Semitic act.

But you will never catch Sir Oswald admitting to anti­-Semitism. All he does is embody it. He talked of ‘the use of Jewish money power to promote a world war'. Taxed on this point, he disclaimed anti-Semitism by saying that he meant ‘not all Jews, but some Jews'. That's as far as he will ever reduce his estimate. The truth, of course, is that the real number of Jews responsible for World War II was zero. Pryce-Jones tried to say something along those lines, but Sir Oswald shifted ground, saying that he himself had made anti-Jewish speeches only after the Jews started 'attacking our people on the streets'. Like Hitler, Sir Oswald obviously regarded any resistance on the part of an innocent victim as provocation.

'I object to this issue being raised now,' Sir Oswald ham­mered on, oblivious to the fact that this issue has never gone away. As if to prove that it hasn't, he had the hide to claim that the Jews would have been as safe as houses in Germany if they had not been so foolish as to promote the war. Before the war, apparently, Dachau had been like Butlin's. If the Jews had really been in peril, then 'why did they not leave Germany?' Here Pryce-Jones, or Bragg for him, should really have told this terrifically silly man not to blaspheme.

Mosley contends that to rake these things up can only injure national unity. 'The quarrel', he announced brazenly, 'has been over for forty years.' Plainly he foresees a national government, with himself at the head of it. That is what he has been hoping for through all these years of exile. He loves Britain and has been waiting for its call - all unawares that the best reason for loving Britain has always been its reluc­tance to call him, or anybody like him. If it had done nothing else but encourage Sir Oswald to expose himself, Pryce­-Jones's book about Unity Mitford ('a sweet gel, an honest gel') would have performed a service.

21 November, 1976
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It's funny. Prior to hearing EC's comments here, I'd always assumed that the rewritten "Less Than Zero" was called the "Dallas Version" because Kennedy's assassination occurred in Dallas, not because EC premiered the new version of the song there.
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http://www.notdarkyet.org/tt-presidentsday.html

including

Mr. Moon – Clover - (1971)

Elvis is , yet again, referred to in the latest of Bob's radio shows. In a two hour 'Presidents Day ' ( Feb.21'08 )themed show, Bob fills out the show with items he say he meant to feature before . The Clover track is from a disc that he 'found behind a box ' ( or words to that effect). Bob tells the tale about how Clover included Huey Lewis , went to England etc. He then jokes about how they were 'on the first Elvis album, there on Milk Cow Blues ( Elvis Presley Sun Records track)'. Bob chuckles and then says something like ' you know which Elvis I mean....'

He seems to be playing a digital mix of the track, raising hopes that this presently vinyl-only track will appear in that format soon.
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I posted this news on a Clover fan site. Today I got a e-mail from Alex Call thanking me for doing so - cool!

http://www.clover-infopage.com/

http://www.alexcall.nstemp.com/
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How soon will Elvis feature in this season ?

http://www.dreamtimepodcast.com/2008/09 ... -3-of.html

'That premiere date for the new Theme Time season would be Wednesday, October 8 at 10am ET.'
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Elvis speaks , briefly, before Nothing by Townes Van Zandt (1996) in the latest ( Jan. 14th '09) of Bob's radio shows. He talks about how it's one of his favourite of Townes songs and how it encapsulates nothingness, something that he - Elvis- has thankfully never really felt etc.

http://www.amazon.com/Legend-Townes-Van ... 673&sr=8-2

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Hey mama, when you leave
Don't leave a thing behind
I don't want nothin'
I can't use nothin'

Take care into the hall
And if you see my friends
Tell them I'm fine
Not using nothin'

Almost burned out my eyes
Threw my ears down to the floor
I didn't see nothin'
I didn't hear nothin'

I stood there like a block of stone
Knowin' all I had to know
And nothin' more
Man, that's nothin'

As brothers our troubles are
Locked in each others arms
And you better pray
They never find you

Your back ain't strong enough
For burdens doublefold
They'd crush you down
Down into nothin'

Being born is going blind
And buying down a thousand times
To echoes strung
On pure temptation

Sorrow and solitude
These are the precious things
And the only words
That are worth rememberin'
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This week it's not Elvis , just Elvis connected , as this commentary tells -

http://www.dreamtimepodcast.com/2009/01 ... essee.html

Friday, January 23, 2009
Tennessee, Tennessee

Posted by fhb -

In a Season 3 full of firsts, the "Something" episode of Theme Time Radio Hour had - as far as I can tell - the first phone-in call from a real person...

Our Host: We're talking about something here on Theme Time Radio Hour, "Something" in particular. I think I'll check Line 1. Oh, it's not working. Line 2 is always good. Hello, caller, you're on the air. What's your name and where you calling from?

TT: My name is Tennessee Thomas, and I'm calling from Brooklyn, where I'm on tour with my band, The Like.

OH: How's the tour going?

TT: The tour is going really well, thanks.

OH: Are you listening to the show today?

TT: Yes, I've been listening to the show, and it's great. And, you asked a question earlier about a guy and I have some information for you.

OH: Oh, great!

TT: Well, um, he did the original version of The Twist, and his band was called The Midnighters.

OH: Oh, Tennessee! You're thinking of Hank Ballard. We were tring to find out about Jimmy Ballard.

TT: Oh, nooo!

OH: Well, that's all right. It was really nice of you to try to help. Have fun in Brooklyn. There's some great places to eat there. Make sure you try the Totonno's pizza on Neptune Avenue.

TT: Maybe I will go there.

OH: Ya can take it on the bus with you. Good luck on the tour.

TT: Thanks a lot!

OH: We'll see you soon.

OH: Nice of her to try to help. Still no closer to learning about Jimmy Ballard though. Perhaps it's lost to the mists of time.

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As Tennessee noted, her band is The Like, an improabably young group which includes Elizabeth "Z" Berg (vocals/guitar), Charlotte Froom (bass/vocals) and Tennessee herself (drums/vocals). Now all of 24 years old, Tennessee and the other women formed The Like in 2001 at the tender ages of 16, 16, and 17 respectively. Tennessee is the daughter of Pete Thomas, longtime drummer for Elvis Costello.That may be the connection with Mr. D., or it may be through The Kings of Leon - who The Like opened for during a 2005 tour - or there may be some other mutual acquaintance.

The Like released their first album, Are You Thinking What I'm Thinking?, on the Geffen label in September 2005. If the band is touring now, I can't find any info about it. The last touring info I can find is from 2006, when The Like was in Europe. The band's MySpace blog hasn't been updated since 2007, and information on their web site seems to end at 2006. I'll resist digressing into a rant but note to bands: There are many good reasons why you don't want to do your Web site totally in Flash. Take heed.
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I look forward to hearing, on his latest ( Feb 4 '09) show, Bob's intro to this -

http://www.notdarkyet.org/tt-madness.html

Madness.

Including -

Psycho - Jack Kittel (1974)
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No mention of Elvis or his version of Psycho . Bob does tell the 'sniper ' tale as the song's inspiration. As I've noted elsewhere Leon Payne's daughter Myrtie writes otherwise -


http://tinyurl.com/cfu4ad

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Leon Payne was my father and his song writing was his life.

PSYCHO - Psycho was written in 1968, after we went to an Alfred Hitchcock movie and parts of the movie was explained to Daddy. Of course, he and Mama being blind, parts had to be explained, especially if the parts scared the beejesus out of me. LOL We got home he called his friend Johnny Cash and was telling him about the movie, and when he got off the phone he wrote Psycho. The scene that got to him was when a head rolled down a staircase. I have read that Daddy wrote it after the University of Texas sniper Whitman, this is not true. I have also read that Daddy committed suicide after writing, this for sure is not true. THE SELFISHNESS IN MAN - This song was written after Whitman, the sniper at UT. It is a beautiful song, that George Jones recorded shortly after Daddy's death.
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Yet more Elvis in Bob's show -

http://www.notdarkyet.org/tt-sugarandcandy.html

S U G A R * A N D * C A N D Y *

FEBRUARY

2009

So Like Candy - Elvis Costello (1991)
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It's way cool that Dylan has his own show and all, but I just saw the latest and greatest American troubadour this evening... David Dondero... He was absolutely amazing tonight and yet, he still rambles on as an average dude, who writes songs, plays a guitar and sings in tune... http://www.daviddondero.net/ ... He may be coming to your town, depending upon his wandering schedule. I'm \happy he has settled in SF (at least for now).
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Bob intros. 'Candy with comments about the Macca/Elvis co-compositions, citing My Brave Face as a favourite. Bob finishes by highlighting the drumming on the MLAR song and then says ' Jim you owe me $5' , a reference, I presume, to Jim Keltner.
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Elvis related tracks in the latest - March 4 '09 - Bob show , 'Questions' -

http://www.notdarkyet.org/tt-questions.html

What Do You Want the Girl to Do ? - Allen Toussaint (1975)

(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding ? - Brinsley Schwarz (1974)


This Dylan forum discussion highlights Elvis' contribution to the shows-


http://www.expectingrain.com/discussion ... 11&t=34454

Most Played Seasons 1-3
Shows 1- 93 03MAY06 till 25FEB09:

(extract)

: 10x: Tom Waits and Dinah Washington

: 9x : Elvis Costello, George Jones
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The latest show ( March 25 '09) may have a mention of Monkey To Man-

http://www.expectingrain.com/discussion ... 52#p563352

Noah's Ark

including -

Dave Bartholomew - The Monkey Speaks His Mind
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/musi ... atles.html


Ace Records: pop before the Beatles

Young and old alike are flocking to the rockabilly and soul of the Fifties unearthed by the Ace label. Its founder talks to Graham Boynton.


By Graham Boynton

01 Sep 2010

(extract)

The label also provides accompanying booklets that are crammed with encyclopaedic notes about the artists and recordings, often written by some of the biggest names in the business. For the forthcoming volume of Theme Time Radio Hour, Elvis Costello, Sir Tim Rice and – Armstrong’s big coup – Pat Boone have written notes.


This is , presumably, a volume three , to follow these earlier collections -

http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php ... Theme+Time
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Presumably. Thank goodness I-others legally/free-obtained the 3 series of Bob TTRH.

Doubtless someone will post EC contributing to Bob TTRH series 3 ...

Multi-millionaires need our contributions.
'Sometimes via the senses, mostly in the mind (or pocket)'.
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Stumpy - How did you legally/free-obtained the 3 series of Bob TTRH? I thought ownership rights were through Sirius/XM and maybe Dylan, too? As for your comment about multi-millionaires needing our contributions, I find that to be a bit off. Artists work hard to earn their money. If they have reached the level of "earning millions" than they deserve it. You don't deserve to take their work for free. Have your ever indulged in a creative process where your ideas and work was stolen? I am assuming NO. Why not respect the artist and pay the $10-20 bucks to support them.
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a) I suspect I have enjoyably paid more for recorded music since the (19)60s than most people on this site. Although I am e.g. happy to pay e.g. £35 UK for e.g. last Bob Dylan 3-disc Bootleg 8, I refused to pay £149 for it on release. Currently, Costello album 'National Ransom' has in past week been priced at between £17.50-£57 on amazon throughout the world - I shall not buy at those prices. Sometimes things are available to us in UK even including delivery etc charges cheaper from abroad including USA, and some of us order/receive from abroad.

b) I have sold and given away free some of my creativity. I do not overcharge for my creativity. Like many on this site, we have often chosen to buy many re-re-re-re-re-released versions of e.g. Elvis Costello product voluntarily, but ...

c) Many people - as is the wont/will of radio listeners - record on analogue and digital (including via computer) radio-transmissions. http://croz.fm/ The legality of these recordings is debatable. If I can buy something at not rip-off price, I-others do.

d) Bob Dylan Radio Hour episodes have been available free on web often, e.g. from:

httpwww.lostinadream.comthemetimeradio1weather.html (link appears no longer to be 'live' ...).

http://croz.fm/

http://croz.fm/pages/ttrh.html

etc ....

I am sure that a web-search today by someone would uncover the Dylan episodes ( I-others searched-found in the past) ...

If guilty listeners/viewers 'time-shifting' recordings from radio-TV etc broadcasters feel they should pay more to the struggling artistes, then I'm sure that their contributions would be usefully-received/used for the benefit of all/the planets.

Some things cost more in many ways in different parts of this world, for many reasons, including greed.
'Sometimes via the senses, mostly in the mind (or pocket)'.
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Stumpy - I hear your argument, but it still doesn't give you the right or entitlement to redistribute someone else's work. Perhaps the reason why the cost of purchasing new releases in your country are so high is to offset the pirate network which seems to proliferating.

As for your comment on giving away your creativity... I guess I was thinking more along the lines of recurring revenues. Have you been screwed out of royalties from a tune you wrote for someone else? If so, that's a drag. I'm sorry. The key here is recurring revenues... not a pro-bono gig, but a creative input that is timeless and reaps $$$ every year, decades and beyond (although I think the cut off is 100 years, I'm not sure).
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At the risk of being vilified for illegal distribution, I (amongst others in this world) post again the link for LISTENING to Bob TTRH shows:

http://croz.fm/pages/ttrh.html

People can 'listen' a la radio via these archives to e.g. Costello references, and not listen to the songs, but play their own many times purchased versions.

Many of us believe that often 'illegal' digital auditioning of quality material in fact leads to increased sales of plastic hard copy benefitting many, including impecunious creative artiste.

I probably won't be bothered to reply helpfully any more with relevant links. I hope that everyone can purchase on CD (including .mp3 CD offical releases)/e.g. BD audio all the copies of the Dylan TTRH that they wish to have.

I accept that sometimes some people do not value an artiste highly enough to purchase their oeuvre on official plastic.

I//probably others have bought some lovely stuff, and also some cack.

I think that you will find that in the real world many of us loan e.g. recordings-books we have bought to friends, and they can decide then whether to buy their own copy.

I am sorry that I upset some people by implying some people seem greedy, when of course everything is sold/bought at a fair price (if available at all).
'Sometimes via the senses, mostly in the mind (or pocket)'.
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Dude, illegal distribution - of any kind - does not lead to music sales. Feel free to post your links and content you don't own. I guess I am someone who respects artists/musicians who work hard to earn a living.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0042EJDOY?t ... amp=211189

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Theme Time Radio Hour Season 3 With Your Host Bob Dylan
1 Nov 2010

CD Description

2010 two CD collection containing 50 more tracks drawn from Bob Dylan's third season of Theme Time Radio Hour. Spanning 76 years, it contains artists as diverse as Roy Rogers, Bobby "Blue" Bland, Nirvana, Toots & the Maytals, Laura Cantrell, the Mississippi Sheiks - shuffle that lot on your iPod. This time there is a nod to the topical collapse of Western capitalism in Joe Mooney's 'The Man With $1 Million' and Mel Blanc's irresistibly alliterative (but blunt) 'Money'. Speaking of Mel we even got Pat Boone to write the sleeve note for that one. A prize for the first person to guess why. The introduction has been written by the novelist and poet Lavinia Greenlaw, whose book "The Importance of Music To Girls", is a must-read for music lovers and we have a spectacular array of annotators this time, ranging from the man who introduced us to the blues, Paul Oliver, to Sir Tim Rice on Elvis (Presley) and Elvis (Costello) on Dave Bartholomew's 'The Monkey (Speaks His Mind)' that he once covered.
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Just notice that So Like Candy by Elvis is in this collection.
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